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On this page you will find information about the annual JSPDT/ICCC expedition to Slovenia, with details on what to bring, how to get there and what to expect on the mountain.

What is the Expedition?

Since 1974, the JSPDT (a Slovenian caving club) have been exploring Sistem Migovec, and alpine cave system in the Julian Alps. ICCC joined them in 1994 and we've been going every summer (with a couple of breaks) ever since. We drive to Slovenia, carry all of our food and equipment up to 1800 m above sea level and camp for four to five weeks on top of the mountain. We explore the cave system beneath the surface in small teams, and tread in places no one has ever been before. We survey and map the cave, entering the data into a 3D model that now covers 37 km of cave passage, with the deepest point 975 m below the surface.

For the history of the expedition up to 2006, read our book, The Hollow Mountain

Location Information

Slovenia

A lovely small country (almost 2 million people) between Adriatic Sea and Alp mountains. It is a democratic country on the South of Middle Europe. Border countries are Italy, Austria, Hungary and Croatia. The Euro is the official currency. Slovenia is part of UN, NATO and EU, since 1991, when Slovenia voted for independence from Yugoslavia. Yes, that means the expedition is older than the country of Slovenia.

Beside Slovenians there are about 15% of other cultures living in Slovenia, especially from former Yugoslavian countries. The official language is Slovenian. Near Hungarian and Italian border also Italian and Hungarian are spoken.

In all 12 official regions a different dialect is spoken. But there is more than just 12 dialects – Almost every village speaks different Slovene version! Many words are from German, Hungarian or Italian language – but spoken in a Slovene version. So, even if you know Slovenian you might find not to understand it in many regions. But no worries – the Slovenian school system is very good – everybody has learnt some English. It is friendly and safe country. You can camp and hitchhike everywhere. Locals will help foreign visitors.

Tolmin

Tolmin is the closest town to Migovec, the mountain where the expedition is based. The local club (the JSPDT) is based here and it's a wonderful place to hang out.

Tolmin is located in Slovenian Triglavski national park and its area provides majestic waterfalls, fabulous river pools, the exceptional and inimitable Soča river, hidden ravines, mysterious springs, gorges and canyons, caves, unlimited trekking on nearby hills and mountains. There are also countless little corners emanating the charms that would make an attentive visitors pause for a while and watch in admiration.

Tourist site for the Soča valley

The JSPDT

The Tolmin caving club (JSPDT) website.

The only real tourist cave nearby is Zadlaška or Dantejeva cave, where the Renaissance poet Dante Alighieri supposedly found inspiration for the terrifying images of his Inferno. Also nearby is the cave Mala Boka, but only for more fit tourists.

The deepest cave in Slovenia is Čehi II (depth: 1502m) on Rombon mountain near Kanin, which is close to Bovec. Sistem Mala Boka is in second place, at 1319m depth, and in 7th place is our own Sistem Mig, with a depth of 972m. The longest cave in Slovenia is Sistem Mig (45,500m), comfortably ahead of our famous rival Postojna Jama in 2nd place at 24,340m, despite its fancy cave trains. Pološka jama, which is 10,800m long, is in the 6th place in Slovenia. The ICCC expedition is to a mountain called Tolminski Migovec (Mig), which contains the mighty Sistem Migovec.

How to get to Tolmin

If you need help planning transport to or from Tolmin it's worth contacting an experienced club member for help - there are some subtleties involving buses not running on certain days and other logistics that makes their advice useful.

Buses in Slovenia

Many of the route descriptions below use Slovenian buses. These can be infrequent and the time depend a great deal on what day of the week it is - Sundays are usually not good days to travel! In the big 2018 timetable, the buses have a code to say which day they run on, the translation is:

D weekdays and Saturdays; D* weekdays; NP Sundays and holidays; NPS last day of holidays in the days of the school year; PSPP Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in the days of school holidays; SO Saturday; ŠPA weekdays in the days of school holidays from 1.9. to 30.6 .; ŠP1 weekdays in the days of school holidays; Š1 weekdays in the days of the school year; V every day; V1 daily from 1.7. to 31.8 ;

Minibus

The minibus is the cheapest options and involves the least effort. Everyone pays for the minibus regardless (we have to get all the kit to Slovenia!) and although it's a long journey, you will get there without having to negotiate any public transport. Highly recommended for novices.

Flying to Trieste

Ryanair fly from London Stansted to Trieste Airport (actually near Gorizia in Italy). Ryanair don't fly every day, and the flights can get into Trieste quite late - not very good for getting to Tolmin, so check carefully. They are often quite cheap at around £40 without any hold luggage.

From Trieste Airport take the bus to Goricia. Then you have three options:

  1. Bus to Nova Gorica bus station (very frequent), and take the bus to Tolmin (pg 56). This is quite easy, but be aware that there are fewer buses on Saturday and very few on Sunday.

  2. Bus to Nova Gorica Train station (just across the border), walk to the train station and take the train to Most Na Soci. From Most na Soci, take the bus to Tolmin (pg 59)

  3. Hitch hike.

Flying to Venice Marco Polo

Note there are two 'Venice' airports, Marco Polo and Treviso - the latter can be cheaper to get to, but more difficult to get to Tolmin from. For both airports you want to take public transport to Gorizia, and follow the directions above for travel from Trieste - either take the bus or the train and another bus to Tolmin. There is also a FlixBus to Trieste from Marco Polo.

Flying to Ljubljana

Easyjet do flights from Gatwick ands Stansted which are surprisingly expensive from London (£90 one way) but quite cheap the other way (£40). From the airport, take the bus to Ljubjana, and then you have three options:

  1. Bus to Tolmin

  2. Train to Most Na Soci, via Jesenice. From Most na Soci, take the bus to Tolmin (pg 59)

  3. Hitch hike

Train from London to Most na Soci

If you don't like flying, or want a more leisurely journey, you can take the [train to Ljubljana](http://www.seat61.com/Slovenia.htm#London to Ljubljana) with an overnight stop in Munich, and then take the train to Most Na Soci. From Most na Soci, take the bus to Tolmin (pg 59). Jack Hare did this in 2015 and enjoyed it, though it can be more expensive than flying.

Kit List

Here is the rather long annual kit guide for freshers going to Slov. There is no TLDR, you should read it all and make sure you are prepared.​​

Places to buy stuff: Decathlon, Mountain Warehouse, Primark, TK Maxx, online (but be careful you know what you're buying!) You can always ask someone for help!

Equipment

Clothes

NO COTTON! Cotton absorbs water and takes forever to dry, making feet sweaty and blister prone, rainstorms deeply unpleasant and cavers cold and hypothermic. Cotton club t-shirts are of course exempt and at the end of the day you can bring whatever you want, but it really is worth checking the label on thermals, socks and other clothing just to double check.

In brief, you should be ready for:

A variety of layers is therefore key!

Specifically:

Caving

And of course, all the normal weekend caving kit can be borrowed from the club.

Entertainment

Things you don't need to bring

Key points

Life on the Mountain

Everyone's experience of expo is different, but this section is meant to give you a flavour of what living on the mountain is like, and most importantly to give you a reasonable expectations for your first expedition.

The first few days of the expedition are spent carrying food and equipment up the mountain. We park the minibus at the mountain hamlet of Ravne, and unload it into a barn provided by a friendly local family. Then you load up your personal items and tent, and start the walk 1000 m up the mountain. The walk begins in the woods with winding switchbacks, before breaking out into high alpine meadows at the Shepherd's Huts, where there is fresh water and hopefully some snacks. After this, the path climbs rapidly up the side of Migovec, crossing scree slopes and patches of nettles before arriving on the plateau, an undulating landscape dotted with shakeholes, dwarf pine and sunbathing cavers.

After pitching your tent, you might decide to go back down and get your caving kit, or some food. You'll return to the bivi in time for dinner, cooked on a petrol stove, and probably sleep soundly after a day of walking up and down the mountain. On subsequent days there's still lots to bring up - food, rope, bolts, drills, survey instruments and snacks! The carrying is an essential part of expo - not only is it the only way to get equipment up the mountain, it also gets you fit for the expedition to come. By the end of expo you'll notice how much faster you are walking up and down the mountain, proof of your improved fitness.

Soon, however, the caving will begin. First the caves need to be rerigged - the rope is often left in the cave, but pulled up to stop water damaging it. You'll join an experienced caver on a 'bounce' trip, going down to rerig and back out again, without doing any exploration. Again, this is essential to improve your skills and get you used to long days out. The pushing front in Primadonna is 600 m below the surface, but most caves in Yorkshire are only a hundred metres deep. You'll be exhausted after a day of caving, but you'll notice immediately how much your SRT improves.

Back on the surface you can watch the sunset with the rest of the expedition at the Sunset Spot, a patch of grass overlooking the mountains to the west where the sun goes down. As the moon rises each night you'll see it wax and wane - if you stay for four weeks you'll see an entire cycle of the moon, something you've probably never looked for before. Every night the food is hot, filling and (usually) delicious, and a range of 'bivi cocktails' will satisfy your thirst, supplemented by popcorn, angel delight and various other delicious puddings.

It's not all about the deep caving - each year we do a lot of work surface bashing, looking for new cave entrances on the surface. Often these have to be dug out with trowels and dig trays, and it's a fun day out going across the plateau looking for new leads. On some days you might just want to relax, reading a book or preparing food, adjusting the tarpaulins that catch our drinking water or digging snow to make slushies with. You can walk down to Tolmin and spend the night at the youth hostel if you need a shower or the company of non-cavers, or you could walk across to the "Razor" mountain hut and buy a huge wheel of the local cheese - sure to make you popular in the bivi!

If you do well on the bounce trips, you may find yourself wanting to go pushing - looking for new cave passage underground. Pushing trips are organised ad-hoc, and it helps to be keen if you want to do it. More experienced cavers often will have some idea where to look from studying the maps, discussing with others or some crazed intuition. We usually push in teams of three, and you need to go with someone who knows the way, so you'll need to find a more experienced caver to take you. They will be more than happy to have someone along to carry all the tinned fish and rope, but they also want to train you up so that you can lead other new cavers in future years. Because there are only a few experienced cavers, you might not be able to go pushing every time you want to - be patient, stay keen and you will get the chance. If you can't go pushing one day, make sure you have a chance to go caving anyway, to boost your SRT skills and make any exploration you do more enjoyable. If someone isn't willing to go pushing with you because they're too exhausted, you might still be able to tempt them to do a bounce trip into some other part of the system.

At the end of expo, everything has to come back down the mountain, and there are usually around three days of carries to load up the minibus before we drive back to the UK. There is often an end of expedition party with the JSPDT, but this varies from year to year and doesn't always materialise. Once back home you'll smell awful, have strange bruises and cuts covering your entire body, but you'll have done something remarkable with your summer that very few people ever get to experience in their lives, and as the minibus winds its way back through the Alps and across the Channel, you'll be planning the which leads you intend to return to next year...

Periods on the Mountain

Words of wisdom from Celia, circa 2018

NB: this is advice, mostly based on personal experiences and common sense - it shouldn't be taken either as medical gospel or Club policy. Also NB: I don't imagine this is relevant if you're on the Pill (but I never have been, so can't advise).

If you're planning to be on Expo 4-5 weeks and have a uterus, likelihood is at some point you'll be on your period. To be honest, even if you plan your weeks to avoid your period, it may still happen (Mig can be fickle like that), and you should probably be prepared.

A rule on the Mountain is not to leave behind any rubbish, meaning burning some things and taking others down to Ravne. Unfortunately, you are going to have a hard time burning used tampons, pads etc. It's certainly possible to keep a personal rubbish bag and dispose of it in Ravne, but be warned, it won't take long for this to smell pretty bad...

In my opinion, the most convenient and environmentally friendly option is to use a menstrual cup. There are various brands and you only need one, which you empty and reuse as needed. This is great for the Mountain as there is no plastic waste. A cup can also hold a lot more than most tampons/pads, so once in you can forget about it for the day, get on with some caving, hike about, work on a Bivi project, and then find some unassuming dwarf pine and tip it out.

If you decide to go for this option, you'll want to pack some antibacterial wipes, as well as a ziplock bag for used wipes. Do be aware that if you've never used a menstrual cup before, it can take a bit of practice, and I'd suggest trying it out in the months beforehand.

Please feel free to ask questions about this - Expo veterans may have additional nuggets of wisdom! Best of luck, and hopefully no one will try and tourniquet your abdomen...

Glossary

Bivi: A shakehole (depression in the ground) where we cook, eat and doss on the plateau. People usually hang out here if they're not sleeping, caving or getting some chapters in.

Bounce trip: A trip down and back up a known part of the system, with no intention of pushing.

Doss: To sit in the bivi, doing very little activity and recovering from caving or accidentally thinking about caving.

Expo: The Expedition

Hollow Mountain: A nick-name for Migovec, the mountain which contains the cave system we explore.

Lead: A potential new cave passage.

Pushing: Checking out a lead to see if it goes anywhere.